Steven L. Smith, Bellingham, WA Home Inspector (King of the House)

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Busy Carpenters Are A Bad Thing

In Washington state, at least up until recently, most of us home inspectors are also licensed structural pest inspectors. I have seen plenty of carpenter ant activity and damage over the years.  I teach the course in wood destroying organisms for Bellingham Technical College.

I have seen more ants on premises previously, but nothing to compare to the amount of frass that I saw the other day. It was quite amazing. Frass consists of sawdust and byproducts of insect tunneling or feeding.

 

All of those shavings came from carpenter ants. At first, based on the amount of frass, I was surprised. I thought maybe this was not ants but that somebody had thrown sawdust in the crawl space at this old home. I sifted through the frass and found bits and pieces of dead ants and I even found some full-size specimens of C. Modoc, the most common carpenter ant in this state.

A bit of trivia here: Carpenter ants do not eat the wood. They tunnel in it, making a gallery to live in. The ants make or find a hole in the lumber they are tunneling in so they can toss out the excess wood and waste products -- hence the pile of shavings below.

Steven L. Smith

Bellingham WA Home Inspections

Comments

It is such a shame that we can't really "kill" them, just help move them...I am referring to Wood Destroying Insects such as Termites!  Termites love Texas!  Carpenters Ants do too.

Posted by Lynn Grimes, ABR,SRES,GRI,IRES (Keller Williams Realty ) about 1 year ago

Thanks for the heads up. I have been chasing a nest of ants around my house for a year. Any tips other than dynomite?

Posted by Mark Hall Vancouver Washington Real Estate (Elite Realty NW - Keller Williams, Vancouver Washington) about 1 year ago

I just say MOVE!!!

Posted by Lynn Grimes, ABR,SRES,GRI,IRES (Keller Williams Realty ) about 1 year ago

Mark,

Try to follow them at night. With luck you might find the nest. Or if you see them walking in a line into a hole or opening in the house, try to view the other side.

Posted by Steven L. Smith, Bellingham, Wa. Home Inspector (King of the House Home Inspection, Inc) about 1 year ago

That is an amazing pile of frass. They must have been there a long time.

Posted by James Quarello - ASHI Certified CT Home Inspector (JRV Home Inspection Services, LLC) about 1 year ago

Judging from that amount of debris, they must have a huge condo going on in there!

Posted by Jay Markanich (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) about 1 year ago

There must be some weak planks in that house.

Posted by Barbara S. Duncan ABR, CRS, GRI, e-PRO Searcy AR (RE/MAX Advantage) about 1 year ago

Wow!  Who actually lives in that house, really? :)

Posted by Shoshana Shay (St. Pete Realty) about 1 year ago

OK, so now I learned a new word.. "frass". I hope I don't have to use it, but when I have an opportunity I will just slip that right into a conversation. Like this:

  • Did you see the frass in that house? It was horrifying!
  • You got way to much frass.
  • Frass this you 6 legged bugger.
  • That is scary frass you got there.

So, how am I doing? Now tell me, is the house ready to fall in on itself?

But you have to admit, ants can be amazing creatures. My friend was in the jungle in Belize. Just after lunch everyone would pick up their stuff off the floor (dirt) and tables, etc., and leave the house. Then the ants came through and cleaned everything that was laying around, and the place was spic and span after they marched on their route. Same time every day.

And so you know, spell check doesn't like the word frass!

 

Posted by Andrea Swiedler - REALTOR - Greater New Milford CT, Litchfield County & More (Prudential Adams & Associates, REALTORS, New Milford CT) about 1 year ago

Andrea,

That was funny.

Posted by Steven L. Smith, Bellingham, Wa. Home Inspector (King of the House Home Inspection, Inc) about 1 year ago

Wow.  Either lots of ants, or they grow them bigger in Washington. lol

Posted by Jack Gilleland (Home Inspection Services Clayton) about 1 year ago

Well, looks like y'all need a good pest control expert to give these dudes a real kick in the frass. Talk about being eaten out of house and home...

Helping you live your American dream...

Posted by Michael Thornton - Nashville, TN area Home Inspector (Complete Home Inspections, Inc.) about 1 year ago

They have 6 inchers out there Jack...  at least.

Posted by Jay Markanich (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) about 1 year ago

Hey Steven,

I say," kill them all !!!"  lol

Thanks for the new word. BTW...have you seen the bees that drill holes into the underside of deck planks/steps and then seal themselves in? What's that all about?

Posted by Tony Orefice Realtor/Concord NC, Charlotte NC (Wilkinson and Associates/www.TonyOreficeRealtor.com) about 1 year ago

Steven, reading this I'm thinking that you guys don't get paid enough!  We see a few of them here, also carpenter bees moving into deck railings.

Posted by Patricia Kennedy (Evers & Company Realtors) about 1 year ago

Jay, that is not a condo they have going there, that is a whole new sub division I think.

Posted by Ian Niquette (Square One Home Inspection) about 1 year ago

C modoc is a large carpenter ant in the realm of ants. Nationally, they do less damage than termites because, luckily, a homeowner is more likely to see signs of their working and call in a pest control operator. During an ant infestation of this type, ants will be seen outside, often inside the home and frass may be visible, especially if they are inside working.

Posted by Steven L. Smith, Bellingham, Wa. Home Inspector (King of the House Home Inspection, Inc) about 1 year ago

We had a saying in Vietnam - Kill'em all, and let God sort'em out.  Kind of works here too.

Posted by Jay Markanich (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) about 1 year ago

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