Steven L. Smith, Bellingham, WA Home Inspector (King of the House)

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Going, Going, Gone

The photo below was one of the more unusual defects I have ever found in the attic of a new home. If you have never been up there, all the clean, pure white loose fill fiberglass insulation is majestic -- like freshly fallen snow.  

This time, not far from the access hatch, I found something I have not seen before. There was an open hole. I peaked down that hole and, estimate here, I would say it went down about fifteen feet. Probably, at one point, a chimney was going to go through there, but that was a plan maybe, but it was never installed. Can you say H-O-L-E?

This hole creates three obvious problems: (1) missing insulation, (2) missing fire-stopping so a fire below could more easily draw into the attic, (3) a danger to a person working in the attic. Falling down that hole would be serious. There is no question about it that the repair has to be done right. Merely stapling cardboard over the hole, putting insulation in place, makes it almost for sure that someone will end up going down the hole. This needs to be repaired in a manner that is safe. People have to work in attics and that location, so near the hatch, is a logical place for someone to pause while traversing to another location. That person does not want to be going, going, gone.

 

Steven L. Smith

Bellingham WA Home Inspections

        

        

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Comments

WOW ..... That is amazing and dangerous. I wonder how much insulation is at the bottom of that hole?

Sean Allen

Posted by International Financing Solutions over 3 years ago

Hard to believe that something like that was left. Someone dropped the ball.

Posted by Ray Henderson (Weichert Realtors' Northeast Group) over 3 years ago

I tied a string around Charlie B and lowered him down the hole. He said there was lots of insulation down there so he had a soft landing. I kind of, accidentally, let go of the rope, again by accident, as in not on purpose...you know.

Posted by Steven L. Smith, Bellingham, Wa. Home Inspector (King of the House Home Inspection, Inc) over 3 years ago

Growing up we had a walk-up attic and the floor joists weren't completly covered.  One night sitting in the living room we heard all of this scratching on the ceiling and discovered the cat had fallen in between one of the rafters.  It took a bit of doing and ingenuity but we got him out.  I see holes like this and think oh yea right this is going to be fun when the cat falls in :-)

Posted by Cindy Jones-Northern Virginia Real Estate & Military Relocation Services (CJ Realty Group, Inc.) over 3 years ago

Cindy,

Sounds crazy but I had a friend and he did not know it but from outside there was a hole into his exterior wall. At 3am one morning, a racoon fell into the wall right behind the bed. He put on heavy gloves, broke a hole in the wall and got it out. That is one he man. True story.

Posted by Steven L. Smith, Bellingham, Wa. Home Inspector (King of the House Home Inspection, Inc) over 3 years ago

Looks like the architect or home desiger didn't update the construction documents accordingly with the changes made by the home owner.

Posted by Henry Birchfield (Henry's Drafting and Design Services) over 3 years ago

The problem with holes like that is that they can become "chimneys", and as we all know, wood and gypsum chimneys are bad juju.  I am glad you finally let me out by the way.

Posted by Charles Buell, Seattle Home Inspector (Charles Buell Inspections.com) over 3 years ago

"I am glad you finally let me out by the way"

Not so much in my view....dumbest move I made. Now you are back hogging all the feature blogs.

Posted by Steven L. Smith, Bellingham, Wa. Home Inspector (King of the House Home Inspection, Inc) over 3 years ago

Funny you should mention this now. I almost fell into a similar hole in an attic the other day... that WAS stapled over with cardboard. Luckily, I caught myself before more than my leg went down.

On another house, (new construction) I found a (hole) in the outside sheeting (missing sheeting) under the vinyl siding by inadvertently leaning against the siding while writing some notes. I leaned, and the siding just kept on bending, which was my first clue that "somethings wrong here". We pulled loose some of the vinyl, to find a place where the builder had neglected to put any sheeting, only insulation. Normally, I don't think I would have discovered this liitle gem. But thanks to being a little on the lazy side that day, I did find it. (Better me than the homeowner). So, now I have a new 'routine'... pushing in on the vinyl siding around the houses.

Posted by KEVIN CORSA H.I.S. Home Inspections Stark & Summit County, OH Home Inspector (H.I.S. Home Inspections (Summit, Stark Counties)) over 3 years ago

Kevin,

As you know there are lots of ways to get tripped up, and to trip and fall, on this job.

Posted by Steven L. Smith, Bellingham, Wa. Home Inspector (King of the House Home Inspection, Inc) over 3 years ago

Steve.. I hope no one gets hurt.. big problem here.  My question is how does this relate to *recipes* where this was posted? 

Posted by Valerie Osterhoudt, ABR ~ Cromwell, CT Real Estate ~ 860.883.8889 (Johnson Real Estate, Inc.) over 3 years ago

Valerie, it's a recipe for disaster.

Posted by Henry Birchfield (Henry's Drafting and Design Services) over 3 years ago

Henry... I didn't look at it from that view point... good one.

Posted by Valerie Osterhoudt, ABR ~ Cromwell, CT Real Estate ~ 860.883.8889 (Johnson Real Estate, Inc.) over 3 years ago

Actually,

I must have accidentally checked that box. Sometimes when the computer is slow at AR, for whatever in heck reason, I check something and it takes forever for the box to fill in. I will remove it.

Posted by Steven L. Smith, Bellingham, Wa. Home Inspector (King of the House Home Inspection, Inc) over 3 years ago

You probably get a lot of surprises in Attics-  I'm scared to have someone check mine out, even though I know I should.

Posted by Judy Greenberg- Coldwell Banker- Buffalo Grove- Long Grove Homes for Sale (Coldwell Banker Buffalo Grove- 350 Half Day Road ) over 3 years ago

Judy,

Attics are not usually so bad. Now crawl spaces hold surprises.

Posted by Steven L. Smith, Bellingham, Wa. Home Inspector (King of the House Home Inspection, Inc) over 3 years ago

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